Good to see that Bloomington and Little 500 continues to be a breeding ground for professional cyclists. Picture from Bissell training camp taken from Podium Insight
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Can you ride professionally and still race in Little 5?
This could be a problem for Eric and the Cutters. Who paid for his trip to California. Is the bike he's riding (valued at over $8.000.00) in Bloomington? GP should have left this one alone and under the radar.
protests due feb 23rd; looks like he squeaked by again damn that's alright it'll give us a reason to drink and not worry about the race because a worthy excuse is losing to a pro right? -FRAT
Be curious to see how Mike Howard calls this one. They say a picture is worth a thousand words!! Even if the contract is not signed on the dotted line, it sure looks like someone has attained "professional status".
The Rules (Part XVI) states: "any action not covered in these rules and regulations shall be determined by the Chief Steward and Judges."
This part applies because the elegibility requirements do not state who makes the final determination (with the excpetion of Amateur Status Modification).
Ryan Kiel better sleep with one eye open after this. I heard Hank is one mean son of a bitch and he seemed fired up at the track today talking to Depass riding around
"Joining the team are Andrew Baker, Andrew Dahlheim, Chase Pinkham and Jay Thomson." I don't see Eric Young listed here. As we've discussed before, he is following the rules to a T. Congratulations Eric!
Please do not reference me on here. I've got better things to worry about than this silly bike race and its formalities concerning others and their actions of cowardedness. Thanks
I would like to win the race but not have the best riders present. Therefore, if you have beaten me (at anything!) please do not show up on April 16th. I know that includes pretty much everyone that has ridden a bicycle in Bloomington, but thanks for your cooperation. Thanks, from a not so loveable loser.
I'd like to see Hank and Kiel duke it out even though Kiel would get his ass beat. Coudright is the only one on the track that could give Hank a run for his money in that department in my opinion
Looking forward to seeing Eric go from strength to strength through out his cycling career. Its exciting for him (and vicariously for the Bloomington racing community).
Good for him. Hopefully he goes on to do great things in cycling so I can say I raced against him. This doesn't mean I won't be hoping for the ill-timed flat come April 16th.
I'd like to express my extreme disappointment in Ryan Kiel's outrageously backhanded attempt at excluding a quality cyclist who has done nothing but follow the rules from Little 500. Eric Young could have signed a pro contract and didn't, presumably because he wanted to race Little 500 one last time. Today, Ryan Kiel organized a meeting amongst all little 500 men's teams to try to get Eric Young banned from the race this evening; however, the Cutters weren't supposed to find out about said meeting (therefore, they excluded anyone who they thought would protest, thus it is unfair and backhanded). SHAME ON ANYONE that attends this meeting; it is unlikely that anyone who attends the meeting will bring up the very important point that Eric Young has broken no rules in his quest to be a phenomenal athlete.
It is not Eric Young who is ruining the Little 500, as so many of you BVN posters often say... Those who attempt to exclude athletes who promote competition and follow the rules of eligibility solely because these people are incapable of beating those athletes on race day are the ruination of the Little 500.
This sounds like a bunch of kids in the retarded class arguing about which of them is smartest, and then trying to get that kid kicked out of the retard class for being too smart. Get a fucking clue.
This sounds like a bunch of kids in the retarded class arguing about which of them is smartest, and then trying to get that kid kicked out of the retard class for being too smart. Get a clue.
Who cares what Kiel does/says? If they hold true to form, they will screw something simple up within the first 25 laps. Kiel is too much of a pot head to actually ride his bike--Eric is too classy to give a crap.
People, Young is not that good, not even the best rider to ride little five in the last ten years. Talented yes, but you seem to think he is Jesus, he isn't ready for a Euro trip at all. He is fast, strong, and works damn hard, but he is not that good, he can be beat in a sprint and in little five. So figure out how to do that, I'm pretty sure Tom already knows how, or he will tell you he does.
Rodkey's got his mind in the right place. Can we talk about how badass his bike is? Any chance Pinarello might be the next Little 5 bike sponsors? Eric, can you try to put in a good word?
The Pinarello frame? Meh. I'm pretty sure it comes the same C-Tech factory as every other carbon frame made in Taiwan. If that, it may be Chinese. The Campy though, that's all Euro.
I cannot say I think any higher of a Schwinn with a sticker saying "Not intended for racing," but point taken. I would be fine with getting Casati or Cyfac if we want real Euro cred.
I'll take a Taiwan frame any day. But I want it from the source. I just don't like rebadged stuff. If my frame or frame tubes are coming from Giant's factory, they might-as-well say "Giant" on them. I like forward technology and hand made stuff: Giant/Campy.
A Little 5 victory this year with Young not in the race would merit an asterik the size of Barry Bonds' steroid-grown head. Eric never cheated, has never let all this success go to his head, and is just an all-around amazing person. He has followed every rule in the book, worked his ass off, and 100% deserves a crack at a 3rd ring. It's a little unfair that he's off in Cali on a Dogma with an army of coaches and pro teammates, but again, he's earned it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to harden the fuck up.
Does anyone reading this really want to win a race where the best eligible rider wasn't allowed to ride for being too good? Seriously, grow a pair.
Everyone's worried about Young and switching their handlebars/stems and seatposts. I want to see and Ashtabula SRM crank or a 36h coaster brake Power Tap hub.
I'm a pretty big fan of kiels new strategy of overloading Facebook and Twitter with photos of random bissell dudes racing in Europe and whining that its no fair that Eric young is doing that.
What would happen if Young let Kiel beat him this weekend at IUCC races? would everything change? Calling it now, after this year Grey Goat folds as a team...
So proud of that Eric Young. He loves Little 5, and he loves riding his bike. Never seen someone more dedicated to this event, and never seen anyone more dedicated to his bike than he is. venga venga!!!!!
Ren-Jay I don't take notes in 409 I go just in case there's a quiz and play games on the girl that sits next to me's iphone. Beat 62 levels of unblock me today in 45 minutes. boom roasted
After reading the previous commentary, I have decided that:
1) Although I am not certain of their unofficial result in the first Little 500 men's race in 2010, in the second one, GGC's official result was 6th. So along with Young, there were 19 other riders preventing their victory. I don't know how many of them are still at IU, but Kiel had best get on the campaign trail to remove all of those remaining from the '11 race. Get to it!
and 2) Eric Young is a category 1 rider. He is completely eligible and has broken no rules. If we are to use the standard that training with pro's is grounds for removal from Little 5, then Phi Psi, you are also out for having gone on a ride with Chris Horner, and anyone that has ridden with either Mike Sherer or Guy East in Bloomington, you are also out.
Indeed, technicalities can be argued either way regarding training with pro cyclist. Depends on the context. We must always take this into consideration. I can see the issue from both sides. He's worked hard, has developed "carefully" from Morris Trucking to NUVO to now (but not yet!) to Bissell Pro Cycling. Wow.
Had we the time to focus as much on cycling as he has then certainly many of us could be at this level as well!
Study hard (for those of you who care about more pressing things than cycling) and see ya at the track.
Miles you must not know Eric that well because that's one of the more ignorant posts on here. He is one of the brightest people involved in Little 5. A neuroscience major with Italian minor I believe. I hope you are as quick as Eric as you continue to develop as a cyclist and you very well could be you've got some pop in those legs but don't blame his quickness for your current insecurities we've had enough of that this week.
Equating Phi Psi's riding with Chris Horner and every other Joe riding with Sherer and East with what Eric is doing is asinine.
Is Eric skirting the rule...yes. NO ONE can dispute that. I just think it is poor taste on Eric's part to be participating in Bissell activities prior to April 17th. But...that's his choice.
If he was truly putting off turning pro until after Little 5 then he should not have any contact with the team until then. And he certainly shouldn't be riding around on an $8,000 Dogma in full Bissell kit. It just paints a poor image, but that was his decision.
Also, quit arguing about wanting to keep the best rider out of the race. That's not what this should be about. It should be a debate on if Eric has "reached professional status." If he has...then he shouldn't ride. If he hasn't...then he should.
That's up to IUSF to decide and it sounds like they made their decision (I doubt Eric would have moved on this without discussing with Pam first).
Let's move on to something else. Too much wasted energy on this topic already.
Not meaning to demerit him at all Hank. I certainly respect him, he's the boss! But indeed the last lines come off punchy--let me correct my wording by replacing *time for *dedication as that was what I intended. And the last note is addressed to all! Thanks.
I agree w/ Anonymous Poster from 6:40 pm. Whether or not Young is pro or not, he is certainly rubbing the loophole he has found in the face of IUSF and the other L5 riders by riding around Bloomington in Bissell gear and having pics posted of him w/ a pro team, on a pro bike, at a pro team camp, etc. That's kind of weak on his part, but is his decision to rub it in. If the IUSF doesn't mind being made a fool of, so be it. He'll race.
If you think that Eric is "rubbing it in" by "choosing" to get his picture taken, then you clearly have never met Eric. He is one of the most humble, nice guys in the group.
I don't even race Little 5 (grad students are exactly prime candidates for it...), but I want to see the best race possible. The race would suffer without Eric in it.
I wanna throw this out: whomever posted above and signed it "Ryan Kiel," that's poor form dude. That being said, I don't really give two craps about L5, just not my seen. But I can't enough of this thread. I'm checking it on the reg. May shut down eblogger's servers. (t-minus 1 post to 69)
I think this 2011 L5 race is ripe for someone to do an indie re-make of the Breaking Away film (or Breaking Away Part Deux)--
--wherein the whole screenplay is immersed in a sort of universe-inverting type of irony--
--that the Cutters have now become the fancy and unavoidably arrogant people that everyone envies with their fancy bikes and chiseled and embrocated bodies and fancy girlfriends--
--and the "laxbros-gone-cycling" fraternity dudes are now the unkempt and overlooked and restless coming-of-age underdog townies.
Regardless of whether a major producer jumps at the cinematic opportunity I am just freaking giving away here to document the occurance,...the ending of the actual L5 2011 race will of course parallel the original film---with the remarkable upset of the empire by the strong legs and huge hearts of a few simple yet complicated, marginalized yet fearless, and lovable but serious unlikely-heroes.
The question is, who will be in the starring roles on the "Anti-Cutters"?
Rim Rodkey, you are now the biggest idiot in the little five community. Sounds like they named the rim job after you. Pam has done a fine job as race director and is always looking out of the best interest of all those involved in the race.
I've been lurking and think most of what needs to be said has been said. Here are my thoughts (which I'm sure most already know):
1) Eric was one of those guys who had never ridden a bike before he started with the Cutters and he has developed his cycling skills through the Little 5 community. He is exactly what the event should be celebrating and has played by the rules. He made a decision to sacrifice his USCF racing because he wanted to ride Little 5! That should tell you how great this event is and how committed to it he is.
2) I haven't been directly involved, but from what I can tell, she has done a great job handling the race over the past few years and this situation specifically.
3) To the poster who believes that anyone could do what Eric has done if he had the opportunity......no comment.
4) Kurt G is Jesus not me, although he'll say otherwise.
Epic backfire! Suggesting ghost posting for R Kiel was shady has only netted me a ghost poster. Oh well, I'm sure Pam and Young know that I've signed in for my posts and "Rim" is probably tossing salad in his frat house.
Other teams get free kits, a few get free bikes from their cat 1-2 teams and it's no different than Eric. Just because his bike is $8,000 and someones elses free bike is $2,500, doesn't make a difference. Legally, Eric is a Cat 1. Legally he is within the rules. Legally this is not like NCAA basketball where gifts would make you ineligible.
That's the jist of it. God forbid they enact another Art Keith rule a week after quals and cost Cutters a 2nd victory by pulling out the best rider in the race.
I do like the movie idea. I've thought of about 10 of them but th,is one actually sounds kind of good. But it would need to be like Rocky 3 where the Cutters get knocked down and out, Kirkham dies after a frat pushes him down on raceday near the pit, and the Cutters come back hungrier than ever with flashbacks of Kirkham training the old Cutters while Depasse trains to a montage of an enthralling new Lady Ga Ga song.
I agree too, seeing as it has my fucking name attached to it. Interesting an anonymous poster using other peoples names is suggesting anyone (especially a female) grow a pair.
This is all GP's fault. He is the one that introduced Eric to Kirkham. He got Pam her job. And he started this thread. We should direct our anger toward him!
I work for Groupon in downtown Chicago and coach the Teter girls team. And I attempt to get back in shape every year to make a comeback only to half ass it. : )
looking forward to both races this year though for sure.
What should I do? Should I admit that I’m cutting it close? Should I remind you that I am following the rules?
Should I go over the Little 500 Rules of Eligibility? What should I do? Should I tell you how much fun I’ve had being apart of a 4-in-a-row winning team?
Soo, this thread went well.
Should I really believe I personally have personally tainted Little 5?
What should I do? What should I do Pam? What should I do GP? Should I have my trophies and memories taken away? Wanna see my shinny new Dogma? Should I just sell Bissell Pro gear? Should I tell you, I am not a roll model? Hi Hans.
Seriously! What should I do? Should I tell you I’m an intramural bike race championship chaser, I did it for the records, the rings? Should I be who all you haters want me to be? The villain. Should I accept my role? As a cheater and fold at some pathetic petition? Maybe I should just disappear to Northern Cali?
I’m not listening to all this garbage on this post. Blah, blah, blah that’s all that is on here GP. Should I stop listening to my Cutters? They are my friends.
Should I try investment banking?
Should I make you realize who I’ve become? Should I read you a soulful poem? “…Throw me to the cinders, you may tear and dirty my new fresh kit, but still, you cannot catch me. For like a cheetah I sprint.”
Should we just ignore and forget about what I’ve done on the bike these last three years? ON THE INSIDE! What should I do? Should I be who you want me to be Bloomington Velo-news?
1-8-7 is the next funny number after 69. Then (as mentioned above) it's 420, then 666. Thank you for removing the "rim" post. I'm curious to know who wrote that. So I can buy him a beer. Then when he's done w/ it smash the bottle and cut his face w/ it.
Wow, I feel like this entire thread has been the male version of Real Housewives of Bloomington Riders. Don't get me wrong this has been fantastic and highly entertaining since Real Housewives of BH is now over and I don't find Real Housewives of Miami quite as ridiculous...come on boys-you all sound like a bunch of gossiping women over here!
Let me tell you-no girl will ever hook up with the guys on jersey night who post as anonymous that remind them of a bickering botoxed 45 yr old trophy wife with boobs that are awkwardly perky... I guess unless they are curious...
Get a pair already and ride your bikes because I need to have a good time at Nicks/Kilroys over Little 5 not having to worry about drinks being thrown in faces and boys slapping each other (didnt you know it's all about the alumni having a good time!)
Love to my GDI's and fratsters and see you in april! Jenna Johnson
I am a new/amateur rider. My goal one day was to ride in the little 500. After reading these posts, I am entirely disappointed with the this cycling community.
Hey Anonymous, I'd love to ride spandex with you! Facebook me! By the way, do you want to go on or off road? I like a rough ride. Let me know! Kisses, Anonymous
Seriously guys? This is a legitimate forum for gentlemen to discuss the events surrounding the greatest bicycling event in the WORLD. Please treat it with respect. Little 500 is something that I will tell my grandchildren about. They'll think I am their hero. Please don't ruin this for me. -Anonymous
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Can you ride professionally and still race in Little 5?
He's not a pro. You can be on that team and not be a pro. Easy assumption to make (that everyone has probably made) but it is certainly the wrong one
check his license. cat 1
This could be a problem for Eric and the Cutters. Who paid for his trip to California. Is the bike he's riding (valued at over $8.000.00) in Bloomington? GP should have left this one alone and under the radar.
Read the article
http://www.podiuminsight.com/2011/02/28/photo-gallery-bissell-training-camp/
Eric Young is not a member of the team. This is simply an audition I'm guessing...
Looks more like a dress rehersal than an audition.
PS3 is back up too.
http://little500.com/ps3
Nice pot stirring there GP
protests due feb 23rd; looks like he squeaked by again damn that's alright it'll give us a reason to drink and not worry about the race because a worthy excuse is losing to a pro right?
-FRAT
Be curious to see how Mike Howard calls this one. They say a picture is worth a thousand words!! Even if the contract is not signed on the dotted line, it sure looks like someone has attained "professional status".
Yeah, about that. I'm not sure the chief steward has anything to say about pre-race eligibility.
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why is eric young riding bikes and not posing for Cosmo? he's a beefcake
The Rules (Part XVI) states: "any action not covered in these rules and regulations shall be determined by the Chief Steward and Judges."
This part applies because the elegibility requirements do not state who makes the final determination (with the excpetion of Amateur Status Modification).
Just telling the news as would have done for anyone else! Eric himself has been looking forward to me posting this picture as much as I have been!!
gp
PSIII is off to a slow start. Tom - why don't we try one week of annoymous posting to breath some fire back into that website!
Ryan Kiel better sleep with one eye open after this. I heard Hank is one mean son of a bitch and he seemed fired up at the track today talking to Depass riding around
"Joining the team are Andrew Baker, Andrew Dahlheim, Chase Pinkham and Jay Thomson." I don't see Eric Young listed here. As we've discussed before, he is following the rules to a T. Congratulations Eric!
Please do not reference me on here. I've got better things to worry about than this silly bike race and its formalities concerning others and their actions of cowardedness. Thanks
I don't mean to name drop or anything, but does anyone on here know Vahon?
Love you Hank
I would like to win the race but not have the best riders present. Therefore, if you have beaten me (at anything!) please do not show up on April 16th. I know that includes pretty much everyone that has ridden a bicycle in Bloomington, but thanks for your cooperation. Thanks, from a not so loveable loser.
Ryan Kiel
I'd like to see Hank and Kiel duke it out even though Kiel would get his ass beat. Coudright is the only one on the track that could give Hank a run for his money in that department in my opinion
Looking forward to seeing Eric go from strength to strength through out his cycling career. Its exciting for him (and vicariously for the Bloomington racing community).
Allez Eric! Allez!
Cheers,
Fred
Good for him. Hopefully he goes on to do great things in cycling so I can say I raced against him. This doesn't mean I won't be hoping for the ill-timed flat come April 16th.
Dear "FRAT" post above:
Grow a pair and ride your bike.
I heard that Fowler and Kirkham made him ride in Little 5 gear the whole time while at the camp. He was then dropped on the first climb
I'd like to express my extreme disappointment in Ryan Kiel's outrageously backhanded attempt at excluding a quality cyclist who has done nothing but follow the rules from Little 500. Eric Young could have signed a pro contract and didn't, presumably because he wanted to race Little 500 one last time. Today, Ryan Kiel organized a meeting amongst all little 500 men's teams to try to get Eric Young banned from the race this evening; however, the Cutters weren't supposed to find out about said meeting (therefore, they excluded anyone who they thought would protest, thus it is unfair and backhanded). SHAME ON ANYONE that attends this meeting; it is unlikely that anyone who attends the meeting will bring up the very important point that Eric Young has broken no rules in his quest to be a phenomenal athlete.
It is not Eric Young who is ruining the Little 500, as so many of you BVN posters often say... Those who attempt to exclude athletes who promote competition and follow the rules of eligibility solely because these people are incapable of beating those athletes on race day are the ruination of the Little 500.
He's riding Campy, I'll give him a pass.
This sounds like a bunch of kids in the retarded class arguing about which of them is smartest, and then trying to get that kid kicked out of the retard class for being too smart. Get a fucking clue.
This sounds like a bunch of kids in the retarded class arguing about which of them is smartest, and then trying to get that kid kicked out of the retard class for being too smart. Get a clue.
Wow, as a FRATstar I must say I like the independent conflict but my god Kiel you are a pussy.
should i bring cupcakes to the meeting?
My opinion: Young Should not be in the RACE.
Reason: He should be in Europe.
Since he is not, and he has made it this far, let him race.
-from a fraternity rider
Who cares what Kiel does/says? If they hold true to form, they will screw something simple up within the first 25 laps. Kiel is too much of a pot head to actually ride his bike--Eric is too classy to give a crap.
Who's going to start the pussy of the year award to give to Kiel at the banquet?
I respect Kiel. Cutters get off BVN and go back to PS4. Oh wait, this is PS4 Part Deux
People, Young is not that good, not even the best rider to ride little five in the last ten years. Talented yes, but you seem to think he is Jesus, he isn't ready for a Euro trip at all. He is fast, strong, and works damn hard, but he is not that good, he can be beat in a sprint and in little five. So figure out how to do that, I'm pretty sure Tom already knows how, or he will tell you he does.
Rodkey's got his mind in the right place. Can we talk about how badass his bike is? Any chance Pinarello might be the next Little 5 bike sponsors? Eric, can you try to put in a good word?
Was not aware that little 5 was a real bike race. Idiots. Get a life. Argue issues that matter.
The Pinarello frame? Meh. I'm pretty sure it comes the same C-Tech factory as every other carbon frame made in Taiwan. If that, it may be Chinese.
The Campy though, that's all Euro.
I cannot say I think any higher of a Schwinn with a sticker saying "Not intended for racing," but point taken. I would be fine with getting Casati or Cyfac if we want real Euro cred.
I'll take a Taiwan frame any day. But I want it from the source. I just don't like rebadged stuff. If my frame or frame tubes are coming from Giant's factory, they might-as-well say "Giant" on them.
I like forward technology and hand made stuff: Giant/Campy.
I dunno if anyone can take lusk in a brawl. I heard one of the cutters rookies had a boxing match with Coudright at a party once and dominated.
I'm a lover not a fighter
A Little 5 victory this year with Young not in the race would merit an asterik the size of Barry Bonds' steroid-grown head. Eric never cheated, has never let all this success go to his head, and is just an all-around amazing person. He has followed every rule in the book, worked his ass off, and 100% deserves a crack at a 3rd ring. It's a little unfair that he's off in Cali on a Dogma with an army of coaches and pro teammates, but again, he's earned it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to harden the fuck up.
Does anyone reading this really want to win a race where the best eligible rider wasn't allowed to ride for being too good? Seriously, grow a pair.
See you on the track.
-fraternity rider
Everyone's worried about Young and switching their handlebars/stems and seatposts. I want to see and Ashtabula SRM crank or a 36h coaster brake Power Tap hub.
Did anyone actually go to the meeting last night? WHat exactly happened?
Little 5'ers don't like to TRAIN to win, they just like to whine.
I'm a pretty big fan of kiels new strategy of overloading Facebook and Twitter with photos of random bissell dudes racing in Europe and whining that its no fair that Eric young is doing that.
Man up, you're just sad he's better than you.
What would happen if Young let Kiel beat him this weekend at IUCC races? would everything change? Calling it now, after this year Grey Goat folds as a team...
A-Rod- you know Taiwan-made stuff is better. Don't be dissing my country.
Hank- I could take you, but I'd rather copy your P409 notes
A-Rod- Shimano > Campy
Shanahan- "I like you peoples, can you teach me to be like you?"
So proud of that Eric Young. He loves Little 5, and he loves riding his bike. Never seen someone more dedicated to this event, and never seen anyone more dedicated to his bike than he is. venga venga!!!!!
RJ- Dude, there are 10 (ten) Giant bicycles in my basement. I love Taiwan and I love you.
Ren-Jay I don't take notes in 409 I go just in case there's a quiz and play games on the girl that sits next to me's iphone. Beat 62 levels of unblock me today in 45 minutes. boom roasted
After reading the previous commentary, I have decided that:
1) Although I am not certain of their unofficial result in the first Little 500 men's race in 2010, in the second one, GGC's official result was 6th. So along with Young, there were 19 other riders preventing their victory. I don't know how many of them are still at IU, but Kiel had best get on the campaign trail to remove all of those remaining from the '11 race. Get to it!
and 2) Eric Young is a category 1 rider. He is completely eligible and has broken no rules. If we are to use the standard that training with pro's is grounds for removal from Little 5, then Phi Psi, you are also out for having gone on a ride with Chris Horner, and anyone that has ridden with either Mike Sherer or Guy East in Bloomington, you are also out.
This is an absurd thread.
Sincerely,
Just Go Ride Your Bikes.
Boom Roasted.
What's the ruling on hooking up with a PRO? Still eligible?
Frat
@Just Go Ride Your Bikes,
Indeed, technicalities can be argued either way regarding training with pro cyclist. Depends on the context. We must always take this into consideration. I can see the issue from both sides. He's worked hard, has developed "carefully" from Morris Trucking to NUVO to now (but not yet!) to Bissell Pro Cycling. Wow.
Had we the time to focus as much on cycling as he has then certainly many of us could be at this level as well!
Study hard (for those of you who care about more pressing things than cycling) and see ya at the track.
Eric does not want to join yet because he is not Drug Free yet.
Miles you must not know Eric that well because that's one of the more ignorant posts on here. He is one of the brightest people involved in Little 5. A neuroscience major with Italian minor I believe. I hope you are as quick as Eric as you continue to develop as a cyclist and you very well could be you've got some pop in those legs but don't blame his quickness for your current insecurities we've had enough of that this week.
Equating Phi Psi's riding with Chris Horner and every other Joe riding with Sherer and East with what Eric is doing is asinine.
Is Eric skirting the rule...yes. NO ONE can dispute that. I just think it is poor taste on Eric's part to be participating in Bissell activities prior to April 17th. But...that's his choice.
If he was truly putting off turning pro until after Little 5 then he should not have any contact with the team until then. And he certainly shouldn't be riding around on an $8,000 Dogma in full Bissell kit. It just paints a poor image, but that was his decision.
Also, quit arguing about wanting to keep the best rider out of the race. That's not what this should be about. It should be a debate on if Eric has "reached professional status." If he has...then he shouldn't ride. If he hasn't...then he should.
That's up to IUSF to decide and it sounds like they made their decision (I doubt Eric would have moved on this without discussing with Pam first).
Let's move on to something else. Too much wasted energy on this topic already.
Not meaning to demerit him at all Hank. I certainly respect him, he's the boss! But indeed the last lines come off punchy--let me correct my wording by replacing *time for *dedication as that was what I intended. And the last note is addressed to all! Thanks.
I agree w/ Anonymous Poster from 6:40 pm. Whether or not Young is pro or not, he is certainly rubbing the loophole he has found in the face of IUSF and the other L5 riders by riding around Bloomington in Bissell gear and having pics posted of him w/ a pro team, on a pro bike, at a pro team camp, etc. That's kind of weak on his part, but is his decision to rub it in. If the IUSF doesn't mind being made a fool of, so be it. He'll race.
Where is Todd Neville? Can we have your thoughts Todd? 1. XII. My christ.
I know Coudright ran a boxing club before Little 5 and I think the cutter rookie who showed up was Walsh. So the party story doesn't quite make sense.
I agree with all the previous few posts.
Hank needs to get more pop in his legs.
Eric needs to give me his dogma.
If you think that Eric is "rubbing it in" by "choosing" to get his picture taken, then you clearly have never met Eric. He is one of the most humble, nice guys in the group.
I don't even race Little 5 (grad students are exactly prime candidates for it...), but I want to see the best race possible. The race would suffer without Eric in it.
From above:
"Eric himself has been looking forward to me posting this picture as much as I have been!!
gp"
Humble, nice? Maybe. But maybe rubbing it in a little too.
two more posts to 69. i know we can do it!
I wanna throw this out: whomever posted above and signed it "Ryan Kiel," that's poor form dude.
That being said, I don't really give two craps about L5, just not my seen. But I can't enough of this thread. I'm checking it on the reg. May shut down eblogger's servers.
(t-minus 1 post to 69)
Fucking Bitches, Making money. That is all the Cutters are about, and now Young is the Captain of the good ship Pimp Juice.
Find a better post for 69 on this lame thread, not likely.
I think this 2011 L5 race is ripe for someone to do an indie re-make of the Breaking Away film (or Breaking Away Part Deux)--
--wherein the whole screenplay is immersed in a sort of universe-inverting type of irony--
--that the Cutters have now become the fancy and unavoidably arrogant people that everyone envies with their fancy bikes and chiseled and embrocated bodies and fancy girlfriends--
--and the "laxbros-gone-cycling" fraternity dudes are now the unkempt and overlooked and restless coming-of-age underdog townies.
Regardless of whether a major producer jumps at the cinematic opportunity I am just freaking giving away here to document the occurance,...the ending of the actual L5 2011 race will of course parallel the original film---with the remarkable upset of the empire by the strong legs and huge hearts of a few simple yet complicated, marginalized yet fearless, and lovable but serious unlikely-heroes.
The question is, who will be in the starring roles on the "Anti-Cutters"?
why dont you grow a pair and never talk about a lady like that again. Incredibly low rent comment about pam.
Ditto to 1:30.
Rim Rodkey, you are now the biggest idiot in the little five community. Sounds like they named the rim job after you. Pam has done a fine job as race director and is always looking out of the best interest of all those involved in the race.
What a fucking douche. Pam does great work.
I've been lurking and think most of what needs to be said has been said. Here are my thoughts (which I'm sure most already know):
1) Eric was one of those guys who had never ridden a bike before he started with the Cutters and he has developed his cycling skills through the Little 5 community. He is exactly what the event should be celebrating and has played by the rules. He made a decision to sacrifice his USCF racing because he wanted to ride Little 5! That should tell you how great this event is and how committed to it he is.
2) I haven't been directly involved, but from what I can tell, she has done a great job handling the race over the past few years and this situation specifically.
3) To the poster who believes that anyone could do what Eric has done if he had the opportunity......no comment.
4) Kurt G is Jesus not me, although he'll say otherwise.
April 16th will be fun!
We couldn't just stop at 69, could we. . .What's the next funny number? 420? That's really pushing it, idk if there's that much hatred in Bloomington.
Epic backfire!
Suggesting ghost posting for R Kiel was shady has only netted me a ghost poster. Oh well, I'm sure Pam and Young know that I've signed in for my posts and "Rim" is probably tossing salad in his frat house.
Other teams get free kits, a few get free bikes from their cat 1-2 teams and it's no different than Eric. Just because his bike is $8,000 and someones elses free bike is $2,500, doesn't make a difference. Legally, Eric is a Cat 1. Legally he is within the rules. Legally this is not like NCAA basketball where gifts would make you ineligible.
That's the jist of it. God forbid they enact another Art Keith rule a week after quals and cost Cutters a 2nd victory by pulling out the best rider in the race.
I do like the movie idea. I've thought of about 10 of them but th,is one actually sounds kind of good. But it would need to be like Rocky 3 where the Cutters get knocked down and out, Kirkham dies after a frat pushes him down on raceday near the pit, and the Cutters come back hungrier than ever with flashbacks of Kirkham training the old Cutters while Depasse trains to a montage of an enthralling new Lady Ga Ga song.
Woj
Depasse trains to Ke$ha, not Lady Gaga.
Why does Kirkham always have to die? Say it ain't so. That's sad.
Hey Woj,
What are you up to these days?
GP,
Could your remove that post about Pam, it is in extraordinarily poor taste.
Tom
Agree!
I agree too, seeing as it has my fucking name attached to it. Interesting an anonymous poster using other peoples names is suggesting anyone (especially a female) grow a pair.
This is all GP's fault. He is the one that introduced Eric to Kirkham. He got Pam her job. And he started this thread. We should direct our anger toward him!
(only 33.33% of this post is accurate)
I work for Groupon in downtown Chicago and coach the Teter girls team. And I attempt to get back in shape every year to make a comeback only to half ass it. : )
looking forward to both races this year though for sure.
What should I do? Should I admit that I’m cutting it close? Should I remind you that I am following the rules?
Should I go over the Little 500 Rules of Eligibility? What should I do? Should I tell you how much fun I’ve had being apart of a 4-in-a-row winning team?
Soo, this thread went well.
Should I really believe I personally have personally tainted Little 5?
What should I do? What should I do Pam? What should I do GP? Should I have my trophies and memories taken away? Wanna see my shinny new Dogma? Should I just sell Bissell Pro gear? Should I tell you, I am not a roll model? Hi Hans.
Seriously! What should I do? Should I tell you I’m an intramural bike race championship chaser, I did it for the records, the rings? Should I be who all you haters want me to be? The villain. Should I accept my role? As a cheater and fold at some pathetic petition? Maybe I should just disappear to Northern Cali?
I’m not listening to all this garbage on this post. Blah, blah, blah that’s all that is on here GP. Should I stop listening to my Cutters? They are my friends.
Should I try investment banking?
Should I make you realize who I’ve become? Should I read you a soulful poem? “…Throw me to the cinders, you may tear and dirty my new fresh kit, but still, you cannot catch me. For like a cheetah I sprint.”
Should we just ignore and forget about what I’ve done on the bike these last three years? ON THE INSIDE! What should I do? Should I be who you want me to be Bloomington Velo-news?
I don't know who left that last poem but that is just plain funny
I am pretty sure that Lance Armstrong wrote that.
he likes big butts and he cannot lie
so far that takes the cake for most creative post on BVN. Well done, love that commercial
what's good KING JAMES!
1-8-7 is the next funny number after 69. Then (as mentioned above) it's 420, then 666.
Thank you for removing the "rim" post.
I'm curious to know who wrote that. So I can buy him a beer. Then when he's done w/ it smash the bottle and cut his face w/ it.
I wonder how many ppl have to look up what 187 means. I'm going to guess the majority. Good call though.
No one that's a true Dre/Snoop fan.
Ok then, come on 187. Lets make some hatred.
over halfway there!
This is all a horrible representation of sportsmanship and respect (in so many ways). The things people will say when they are "anonymous"...
100
Wow, I feel like this entire thread has been the male version of Real Housewives of Bloomington Riders. Don't get me wrong this has been fantastic and highly entertaining since Real Housewives of BH is now over and I don't find Real Housewives of Miami quite as ridiculous...come on boys-you all sound like a bunch of gossiping women over here!
Let me tell you-no girl will ever hook up with the guys on jersey night who post as anonymous that remind them of a bickering botoxed 45 yr old trophy wife with boobs that are awkwardly perky... I guess unless they are curious...
Get a pair already and ride your bikes because I need to have a good time at Nicks/Kilroys over Little 5 not having to worry about drinks being thrown in faces and boys slapping each other (didnt you know it's all about the alumni having a good time!)
Love to my GDI's and fratsters and see you in april!
Jenna Johnson
For the love of God. Ride your bikes and stop talking about it. You've got 60+ years to live. Classless.
This "Anonymous" guy needs to get a life.
Who farted?
SHOOT HER!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PChWWkRS0MQ
I am a new/amateur rider. My goal one day was to ride in the little 500. After reading these posts, I am entirely disappointed with the this cycling community.
Hey Anonymous, want to spin and grab a beer after?
My knees itch. Does anyone have a cure?
Tickle me green!
Colonel Lingus. Major Wood.
Hey Anonymous,
I would love to spin. I just bought new spandex. They are really really REALLY tight... :--)
Sincerely,
Anonymous
When was the last time you guys were gellin'?
Hey Anonymous,
I'd love to ride spandex with you! Facebook me! By the way, do you want to go on or off road? I like a rough ride. Let me know!
Kisses,
Anonymous
Dear Anonymous,
I have the funk on me. Any suggests?
Sincerely,
Anonymous
Seriously guys? This is a legitimate forum for gentlemen to discuss the events surrounding the greatest bicycling event in the WORLD. Please treat it with respect. Little 500 is something that I will tell my grandchildren about. They'll think I am their hero. Please don't ruin this for me.
-Anonymous
Dear Anonymous,
I really feel that most bikers are pussies. However, if you want to take me on a rough ride... I could join.
PUSS & KRAM ---> hugs and kisses in Swedish
sincerely,
Anonymous
Hello there Anonymous!
There are a few topical creams that can be applied to rid your genitalia of 'the funk.' If they are not strong enough, you can take a daily tablet that will be effective, but has side-effects such as hair growth under toe nails, lack of musk which will cause your wife to leave you, and of course spontaneous orgasms of the anus. (I'm sure you haven't heard of these symptoms for they have just been discovered in Pakistani mountain goats.) Please describe your symptoms and I'll diagnose you.
Best,
Anonymous, MD
I just pooped a gold coin! The bidding starts at $3.
-Lucky
Anonymous, we're already awake. Want to hit Upstairs Bar? I loooooove playing darts, but I love hanging out with cutie bikers more!;)
Smoochies,
Anonymous
Can I be the guy in the corner when you guys 'hook-up?'
-Pseudonym
I have the butt pee. Anonymous, MD, do you have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance,
Jonathan Quincy Doe "Aka Doe Boy"
Ps. This forum was never for serious talk. That's the beauty of it.
since when is this a forum? i thought it was a blog/news site?
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